So good to hear you're finding this discussion inspiring and insightful Rai!
Aw, that's very endearing that you have a palpable longing to share your life with a community/tribe. I believe discussions like we're having here will continue to address multiple layers for the unfolding of paths of most allowance for community to manifest.
Nice to see your explorations and inquiries here, James!
I appreciate the questioning of whether "no on the ground community" is a collective phase, or a personal phase for some of us.
I would add it's definitely cultural, too. I write this from India, where interdependence and community is vital. It's changing here, too, in some cities or classes, but the whole psyche is completely different than the West.
"Can you have a healthy community that consists of unhealthy people?" I would absolutely say NO. I would say the community is as healthy as the majority of its members, and the level of wellness (which could be called "thriving") is weighted positive or negative toward the relative health of its dominant leaders.
If the members are truly healthy, then the leadership has less of a hold, however.
Thanks for mentioning the cultural component to the collective phase aspect. The experience you share of the cultural component in India - where it sounds like there's high reliance on interdependence - makes sense that it would be impermeable if there were some sort of collective "no community' phase occurring.
There very well could be this broader phase happening. With the high preponderance of individuals saying community is elusive (in my exchanges, predominantly from those in the west) is leading me to believe it's more than just an individual thing.
And yes, regarding the ability of having a healthy community, the health of the members must be taken into account. Therefore, this can be another delay in creating community - or community "at bay" - if those who are wanting it are unsure of how to assess health and how it will feed the loop of individual to collective within the community dynamic.
Hope you're having a wonderful time in India! (I'm sure you are!)
So much insight! Thank you James!!
Community is the top most thought in my mind these days. The lack of this in my life is palpable. I long for a tribe to share my life with.
You’ve inspired a few new lines of ideas to contemplate.
So good to hear you're finding this discussion inspiring and insightful Rai!
Aw, that's very endearing that you have a palpable longing to share your life with a community/tribe. I believe discussions like we're having here will continue to address multiple layers for the unfolding of paths of most allowance for community to manifest.
Nice to see your explorations and inquiries here, James!
I appreciate the questioning of whether "no on the ground community" is a collective phase, or a personal phase for some of us.
I would add it's definitely cultural, too. I write this from India, where interdependence and community is vital. It's changing here, too, in some cities or classes, but the whole psyche is completely different than the West.
"Can you have a healthy community that consists of unhealthy people?" I would absolutely say NO. I would say the community is as healthy as the majority of its members, and the level of wellness (which could be called "thriving") is weighted positive or negative toward the relative health of its dominant leaders.
If the members are truly healthy, then the leadership has less of a hold, however.
My first thoughts.
Namaste.
🙏🏽
Appreciate your thoughts on this Erin!
Thanks for mentioning the cultural component to the collective phase aspect. The experience you share of the cultural component in India - where it sounds like there's high reliance on interdependence - makes sense that it would be impermeable if there were some sort of collective "no community' phase occurring.
There very well could be this broader phase happening. With the high preponderance of individuals saying community is elusive (in my exchanges, predominantly from those in the west) is leading me to believe it's more than just an individual thing.
And yes, regarding the ability of having a healthy community, the health of the members must be taken into account. Therefore, this can be another delay in creating community - or community "at bay" - if those who are wanting it are unsure of how to assess health and how it will feed the loop of individual to collective within the community dynamic.
Hope you're having a wonderful time in India! (I'm sure you are!)